The real story of Jane Fonda and the Vietnam vets who hate her MacArthur soon realized he was expected to win battles but lose the war. I am assured it will be taken care of. Support with a donation>>. or redistributed. For the next severalyears, Fonda would continue as one of the most prominent public faces in the antiwar movement. Daughter of legendary Henry Fonda, actress, and activist was one of the most outspoken people against the Vietnam War at the age of 34. Peter Braunsteins article speculated that Jane Fonda had this ability to a degree unique in modern times. I wanted to tell them what I was seeing as an American on the ground there. MacArthur was denied his request to attack enemy forces massing across the Yalu border in preparation for attack. To license content, please contact licenses [at] americanheritage.com. After countless apologies spanning four decades, Breitbarts John Nolte believes Hanoi Jane Fonda should finally be forgiven for her antics in Vietnam.. Fonda has said categorically that she was an adult at the time and called her I get up, and as I start to walk back to the car with the translator, the implication of what has just happened hits me. A photograph caught her looking through the scope of an anti-aircraft gun, surrounded by revolutionaries. Quite the contrary. And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. I mean Alan, this woman was totally caught up in the age of the '60s, the rhetoric of the '60s, and quite frankly I feel sorry for her, because she's not out of it. Truman refused. Her name was Jane Fonda. Read on. They hadnt been able to vote on the virtues of the conflict, and they found themselves in mortal peril in the midst of an ugly, painful ordeal that a lot of vocal people back home thought was a criminal enterprise. America. The Ms. , we thought, would signal a bit of ironic distance from the broad, ingenu- ous affection contained in Miss America., It evidently didnt. There is no doubt these treasonous no-win US wars were meant to disillusion the American nation into accepting loss of sovereignty and one world government." Do any right-wingers ever decry the fact that Bush and the conservatives overthrew Aristide because he was a socialists----then invited the Chinese Communists in to our hemisphere? The actual allegation took the form of an email citing the alleged experiences of a number of Viet Nam War veterans at the hands of Jane Fonda. And, as she does, each POW palms her a scrap of paper with his Social Security number written on it. Nevertheless, there are Vietnam veterans out there who served in the war zone before 1969 who are convinced that Jane Fonda was in cahoots with the Commies during their own tours. She was a symbol of a divided nation. Status: TRUE" The reality of it is an apology is saying, "I am sorry, I really do apologize for what I did over there, and I'm asking for your forgiveness." Politicians make mistakes that affect the body politic and statesmen sometimes direct a foreign policy that disregards individuals in the national interest. It is giving them the advantage of the propaganda visibility that this woman lent to them. Fox News has enhanced the careers of numerous women who have served as hosts. Sadly, the Founders also mixed a great deal of Greco-Roman Humanism with this heritage, allowing room for much of what you decry. For example, she went on Radio Hanoi a number of times, while our troops, your friends, were being shot at by an enemy in Vietnam, saying our POWs were in good health. The Army builds a tolerance for violence, she shouted at the crowd. She was young and famous at the time, maybe the Iraqi insurgents could get some of the present crop of empty headed celebrities, Britney Spears perhaps, to pose next to those Muslim mopes in robes and head towels while they aim their weapons. But the reality of it is, Alan, this is a woman,who I quite frankly feel sorry for. The war was being fought by the air during during the Nixon administration. The people who are speaking out against the war are the patriots. She said the radio addresses were the only way to get access to American soldiers, because she was barred from meeting them at their bases in South Vietnam. All rights reserved. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. Whether Fonda wanted to shame troops is subjective. It was my mistake, and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it. Transcription Copyright 2005 eMediaMillWorks, Inc. (f/k/a Federal Document Clearing House, Inc.), which takes sole responsibility for the accuracy of the transcription. MacArthur complained that his conduct of the war was compromised by spies within the U.S. government: "The enemy receives my (Pentagon) directives before I do". The answer, of course, is that they won't. But She was photographed sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun on a 1972 visit to Hanoi, during which she gained the nickname "Hanoi Jane". We now see a pattern of sedition/treason. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. MacArthur asked Truman to permit Chiang Kai-Shek's troops to fight with Americans against the Red Chinese. [1] Cited on November 24, 2004. But she maintains she was not a traitor by speaking out against the war or trying to turn soldiers against it, because she still believesthe U.S. government was lying to them. He collects a group of American POWs from their septic dungeons, cleans them up, and has them mustered on parade to show his guest how well his embattled nation treats its prisoners. Thats all the ground troops were going home. I mean, he realized that . Its something very like the worst sort of lovers betrayal, the deep wound that time itself often is powerless to heal. William Burkhead, a Democrat from Anne Arundel, said, I wouldnt want to kill her, but I wouldnt mind if you cut her tongue off, according to a Post story. The alleged mission was to prevent communism from spreading to South Korea, a peninsula pointed at now disarmed Japan. It is possible that the Vietnamese had it all planned. Legal Statement. She has to be a murderess too. And heres Cat Ballou, the beautiful daughter of Young Abe Lincoln, of Mister Roberts, beaming down from a machine designed to kill them. Mao Tse-Tung, of "Little Red Book" fame, and darling of the New York-Hollywood "elite", then proceeded to murder 65 million of his countrymen in what David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski call "a glorious revolution." : Yes, that one story was true. It is always distressing to find American citizens who benefit from the protection and assistance of this government lending their voice in any way to governments such as the Democratic Republic of Vietnam distressing indeed, said State Department spokesman Charles W. Bray, according to a July 1972 Reuters story. JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. [5] One man who was supposed to have encountered Jane Fonda, one Colonel Larry Carrigan, has denied any claim that he ever met her. NORTH (on camera): What did the guys in your squad say about this? This thread gives me a great chance to ask veterans a question that has always bothered me. CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. That's an apology. Jane Fonda was more than just an actress born to a wealthy and prominent Hollywood family. When Rockefeller said what he said about the Cultural Revolution (in an Op Ed that I read long ago, attesting to its existence), he was addressing the Communist system as a Fascist system with potential for realizing corporate/banker control much more than as a "Marxist" system. Copyright 1949-2022 American Heritage Publishing Co. All Rights Reserved. Good question here Richard: "My question is, when will people like Fonda and Kerry (unlike Joan Baez) take responsibility for what they have wrought -- the totalitarian system that gave us re-education camps and the boat people?" . Jane Fonda This is not a legal transcript for purposes of litigation. Sheturned down a four-year, $100 million offer to stay with Fox News saying that one of the reasonsfor her departure was to spend more time with her kids. Credit: Bettmann Archive/Getty Images "It was a very tumultuous and polarized time," she said in the HBO documentary. How did we get into this war? (Later, after 58,152 American dead were just names on a wall, declassified US Navy logs revealed there had been no torpedo attack!). Nevertheless, there are Vietnam veterans out there who served in the war zone before 1969 who are convinced that Jane Fonda was in cahoots with the Commies during their own tours. Even she had to apologize years later for that gun picture, but not for the rest of it. And by the way, did our government lie to us during Vietnam? And its about a woman who had a capacity for reinvention that, like Jay Gatsbys, was the more effective for her whole-souled belief in what she devised. Hows this for a story? She continued openly to question the accounts of the U.S. government and American POWs, who told devastating stories of the torture they endured at the hands of the North Vietnamese. It's not just handing out, you know, blankets. If I was Vietnamese, I probably would have tried to do the same thing, you know, but I should not have gone. But he never met Jane Fonda, and he has no idea how the maddening tale attached itself to him. In fact, when the Tet Offensive broke, Jane Fonda was the featured pinup girl in that months issue of Leatherneck , the official publication of the Marines. However, when my credibility is challenged, I will respond. Radio broadcasts, which attempted to shame American troops: Fonda did record messages that the North Vietnamese played for Americans to weaken their resolve. But Jane Fonda: Cancel my subscription! Fonda moves down the line, greeting each man with encouragements like Arent you ashamed you killed babies? as she shakes his hand. The "New World Order" of the capitalists and the communists is not "Jewish", sir. Here it is. Colonel, Michelle Malkin (search) actually discovered other quotes that she had said. NORTH: The real story about Vietnam. I spent many years its when I made coming home talking to American soldiers, who had been in Vietnam and the things they told me were heartbreaking. If I was used, I allowed it to happen. I was not the kind of mother that I wished I had been to my children. And you know, maybe I was set up but I was an adult, its Im gonna take responsibility for it. Again the secret policy of the financiers was: "containment of communism" while disallowing an American victory. Many of our veterans still call her Hanoi Jane thanks to her radio broadcasts: True, but she doesnt just have the nickname because of the radio broadcasts. }); We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. All rights reserved. They knew we were coming. In July of 1972, she made two trips to Hanoi which earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane. She went to tour the countrys Or to keep it anonymous, click here. Hows this for a story? I mean, the reality is, there were 24,000 American troops on the ground in South Vietnam. I'm not going to tell you anything of the sort. Whereupon Truman dismissed MacArthur for insubordination. Nixon has responsibility for everything he did or didn't do on his watch. Just before that experience, she said the words that continued to play through her head were: All men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. T. Jefferson. officers, toward the Chinese border amid cries of protest from Wall Street which feared war with "our trading partner" Red China. At that time, over 60,000 American soldiers had lost their lives, and almost one million Vietnamese. I stand by the article as it was written. So I feel that well If I did was good, except that I shouldnt have set gone out to a military place. Fonda was accused of engaging in war crimes on behalf of the North Vietnamese. Greta Van Susteren -- who had been one of Ailes' most stalwart defenders -- left in early September 2016 after saying that Fox had "not felt like a home" for years. She went to tour the countrys dike system, which was rumored to have been intentionally bombed by American forces something the U.S. government to this day forcefully denies. We have no right to attack that country. Did Jane Fonda Really Apologize for Vietnam? Oliver North Weighs In Jane Fonda Runs Through Stunning Array of Responses to Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. He hadnt liked the story but at least was willing to discuss it. On a hot, stickyMay afternoon in 1970,a crowd of several thousand students and protesterstook over the University of Maryland mall. Megyn Kelly Fact-Check: The Truth About Jane Fonda and Vietnam I sang a song. It never happened. These men were bombing and strafing and napalming the country, she said. . Im not you know, they all went to jail. The story surfaced on the Internet in 1999, and my guess is that it will live there a long time. I believe Jane Fonda has talked to at least two historians. Someone (I dont remember who) leads me toward the gun, and I sit down, still laughing, still applauding. Richard Morgan, North Vietnamese press reported and Fonda later confirmed that she made several radio announcements over the Voice of Vietnam radio to implore U.S. pilots to stop the bombings. Chris Appy, a historian who has written about Vietnam, told HNN he once asked POW Porter Halyburton about the claims made against Fonda. Id been getting pretty sour about the incensed patriots who would curse me and my family and confidently speak on behalf of all veterans living and dead, and the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress, to declare I was a disgrace to America for running that storythen conclude by smugly assuring me they would never read it. Kelly responded with a cannon by bringing up the time Fonda posed on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun. It hurts me, she said, and it will to my grave that I made a huge, huge mistake that made a lot of people think I was against the soldiers., The Dragon Lady: How Madame Nhu helped escalate the Vietnam War. As in Korea, communist spies within the U.S. government released vital information to the enemy. It all has nothing to do with where I am sitting. 5:15 After numerous apologies over four decades, its time to let Hanoi Jane Fonda off the hook for Vietnam. But when you know why you did something, and youre willing to admit the mistakes that you made, but stand up for the things that you did that that mattered? NORTH: Irrefutable for the three things she did, and I defined for you the rule, the actual constitutional language defining treason. For a great many people, its not enough that Jane Fonda went to North Vietnam, offered encouragement to an army that was daily killing her countrymen, climbed up on that anti-aircraft gun, insisted that all American prisoners were well treated, and so on. Many Americans disapproved of Fondas comments The financial elite then move into the vacuum, establish central banks, and issue debt-credit to the devastated populations. Fonda wasnt deterred. Thousands more were on the way, including Ernie Wallace (ph) and Ed Grummett. HANNITY: Is Jane Fonda really sorry or just trying to sell her brand new book? I plead with him, You have to be sure those photographs are not published. And, you know, I think they thought, Oh, shes this white privilege rich, famous daughter of all of that stuff. He collects a group of American POWs from their septic dungeons, cleans them up, and has them mustered on parade to show his guest how well his embattled nation treats its prisoners. However, you may note that the Left still presumes to lecture the rest of us often concerning foreign policy on a regular basis. "KOREA: Shortly thereafter Truman, with Congress averting its eyes, committed U.S. troops to Korea. The chance to remake oneself is a universally acknowledged strength of this Republic, and the Republic itself has done it often enough. She posed on an anti-aircraft gun used to shoot down our American pilots. Ramsey Clark went to Hanoi during the war. Only the bankers know. Outside of herself, she was manipulated by the experts in the Communist government who are masters in the art of propaganda. Otherwise, she wouldn't touch a weapon if she was genuinely anti-war. The reason Jane Fonda went to Vietnam was not wrong as Mr. Sollinger put it but the way she behaved while in Vietnam was unappropriate. Due to the pressure of so-called "rationalists", Article VI, Paragraph 3 of the Constitution forbids Congress from excluding Communists, Anti-Semites, or Globalists from its membership, allowing the control that you decry. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. However, since the majority of the stories cited in the e-mail have no proof behind them, I had to either give the e-mail "thumbs down" or "thumbs up" on the basis of the overall validity. [2] Peter Collier, The Fondas; A Hollywood Dynasty. ED GRUMMETT, USMC: The night before we made the landing at Chu Yuan (ph) we were listening to Hanoi Hannah and how they were going to annihilate us on the beach. Fonda told the audience that their protests saddened her. During an interview with Barbara Walters 35 years ago, Oscar-winning actress Jane Fonda apologized for being used as propaganda for North Vietnam when we were still fighting North Vietnam. But newly discovered tapes tell a very, very different story. Nobody remembers, nobody cares. But it wasnt untilshe traveled to Hanoi in July 1972 that she really enraged criticsand fundamentally altered how the world viewed her for decades to come. "CHINA: Following WWII, Mao Tse-Tung, financed by the international banks, led his Chinese communists in an armed conflict against nationalist China under Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek, America's ally against Japan. JANE FONDA: I know what Im doing. Especially considering that the Republican Party has obviously now been captured by the same forces (the 'Illuminati', hehehe). We have no right to bomb military targets in Vietnam. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. The day anti-Vietnam War protesters tried to levitate the Pentagon. As Jane Fonda promotes her new film, "Monster-in-Law", its up to all of us to let our children know about the specific activities she undertook during the Vietnam War. It never happened. Even so, I'm going to keep an eye open to purchase one of the urinal mats with her photograph depicted upon it. During her two-week stay, Fonda concluded that America I mean, the reality of it is that's not an apology. But the action that still enrages veterans most was that photograph of her with North Vietnamese troops onan antiaircraft gunthat would have been used to shoot down American planes. I don't want people putting words into my mouth, saying "you're going to tell us all these bankers and financiers are Jewish", for instance. Mr. Nolan wrote something that helped me better understand the fury of this sort of reaction. 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