We reject any teaching that abortions of pregnancies due to rape, incest, birth defects, gender selection, birth or population control, or the mental well-being of the mother are acceptable. If you think that any rational thought is dangerous because it may lead you to believe something different than what the IFB believes, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 50. I understand others dont like hearing God gave inspiration to the Kjv, but its true. We also teach that one must hear the Word of God, one must believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, one must repent of your sins, one must confess that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, one must be baptized for the remissions of sins, and one must live faithful until death. We had been boyfriend and girlfriend for 5 years and a baby that was 10 months old. I talk to her about my faith she talks to me about her faith. It is the final authority on all matters of faith, practice, and polity. I hope you found some church that preaches the truth (even though they may differ on some things with me). Complete Guide to Christian Denominations: Understanding the History, Beliefs, and Differences by Ron Rhodes. [2] They are described by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) as "a loose network of independent churches concentrated in the U.S. connected by their belief in certain religious doctrines and a shared brand of deeply anti-LGBTQ and antisemitic teachings." If you think that tithing 10% of your gross income is the minimum, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 6. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: I received these because of lies that I was single with no income. I was told that I could not work in one of my passionate ministries, infant, toddler, and 3-4 year olds because of something I did in my past 14 years ago and pastor told me I have to prove myself first. WebActs 15:36,41; 16:5; I Corinthians 16:1; Galatians 1:1-3; Revelation 1:4, 10, 11. 9. Our By-Laws | lbc-up People can ask for clarification if they want. 1. What your pastor told you is extremely dangerous and silly. The IFB is the one who is hurting the cause of Christ, just like the Pharisees did. If you think that you can be a better Christian or have more favor with the Lord with good performance You cant make up for sins nor can salvation be earned. 45. The lost in the world watch us Christians closer than we know. We believe that the clear message of salvation is repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). when you run into her at Wal*Mart. Same position regarding IFB belief 29. More than one earring per ear for women is worldly I dont agree that multiple earrings per ear for women is worldly as long its not fancy. your comments are offensive, you are narrow minded. 3 And why worry about a speck in your friends eye when you have a log in your own? He is the Head of the church. Seeing 2 brothers in Christ debase a conversation (be it one or both parties) to snide remarks, tasteless jabs, and condescension as a form or response, makes us all look bad. The women that I befriended in this church will always be my sister in Christ. Baptists believe the Bible and strive to live according to its teaching. I truly dont understand this one, ha! 14. WebEvery active member wishing to speak shall rise and respectfully address the moderator. The Conservative Baptist Association: "Winning the World" The Pharisees were filled with hypocrisy and iniquity and my church is not. of Infighting, Anti-LGBTQ Church Network Please get away from the IFB as far as you can, as fast as you can. [6] Adam Fannin, the lead preacher at SBC's Jacksonville satellite campus, refused to acknowledge the authority of Jonathan Shelley, another Texas New IFB pastor who took over SBCFort Worth following Romero's resignation. If you believe that someone who smokes, drinks, parties, dances, listens to secular music, listens to Christian contemporary music, etc. The problem is assuming intent instead of asking. Why dont you focus on the log in your own eye then you might be able to see the speck in my eye. His mom, Dorothy Chrisman, was a teacher at the academy run by Fairhaven. BTW, tithing isnt a Biblical teaching for NT Christians. This is very good. Doctrinal Statement - independentbaptist.church The end of November we were going to break up because of physical abuse so instead sought counseling for our pastor and his wife. (Ephesians 2:8-10; John 1:12; I Peter 1:18-19). If your pastor is telling you otherwise hes a heretic. If you pray using KJV language (thee, though, ye, etc. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. I love this!! Grow your faith in a less toxic environment. We believe in the reality of the person of Satan and that he and the fallen angels wage a spiritual warfare against the plan and purposes of God (John 13:2; Acts 5:3; Ephesians 6:11-12). 53. They were not Ignorant Fungicidal Blaptists. Dress Standards For Christians (Pastor Tim 48. Everything is about Him, He is a jealous God. Me preferring the Kjv bible and believing its the inspired word of God is not incorrect. Even though I dont believe the churchs teachings anymore, Im very grateful for the care and support I received from the Baptists growing up. The Lord's Supper, or Communion, commemorates Christ's broken body and shed blood giving each believer an opportunity for self-examination and rededication. Youre supposed to read the word daily, it says give us this day our daily bread. They will not participate, as a church, in any outside function with churches which do not also strictly base their faith and practice on the New Testament. Even the General Baptists and the Free Will Baptists denounce eternal security, thus the only two Baptist groups that believe in Free Will. I would of rather take the word literally than follow the world. No, Baptist churches are not sinless because they are filled with forgiven sinners. I had a free apartment, food stamps, government phone, and a $60.. utility check every month. If you think that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 55. 39. Its about Jesus. We believe that the sign gifts of the Holy Spirit, such as speaking in tongues and the gift of healing, were temporary. Independent Baptists (a.k.a. Seeing 2 brothers in Christ debase a conversation (be it one or both parties) to snide remarks, tasteless jabs, and condescension as a form or response, makes us all look bad. I only hope that you will see it before too long. I prefer Kjv! If you think that more than one earring per ear for women is worldly, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 13. Basically he was just marketing for his college. That being said, your list is probably only funny to those of us who have lived it. Find a Church | IndependentBaptist.church Their testimony is great Im sure they won more people to the lord than you. Independent Fundamental Baptist These Independent Fundamental Baptists appear to be inconsistent, and so misguided. All fellowship should be grounded in doctrine. We didnt go, but they came back the next week. No, thats silly! Id have more time to minister to the lost if I didnt have to work to repair the damage done by the IFB. the Bible teaches us to prove and test matters. As I sit under preaching, sing worship songs unto the Lord, pray earnestly, read my Bible as often as I can, and search through commentaries to help me gain a deeper knowledge instead of surface reading, I KNOW Im drawing closer to God in a personal relationship with Him. If you believe that doing, saying, thinking, etc. The verses you quoted are taken out of context and dont mean what you imply them to mean. If you believe that declining to spank your child is the equivalent to spoiling him/her, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist We recognize the ordinances of baptism by immersion in water and the Lord's Supper as a Scriptural means of testimony for local churches in this age (Matthew. Youre perfect for them because they dont want people challenging their belief system. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 The Baptist Fundamentals and Hermeneutics The New IFB is strongly opposed to homosexuality, with several pastors advocating the belief that homosexuals should be executed by the government. I hope that you left your church in good terms and that they knew how you felt and whoever was wrong to be revived and allow the precense of God to bring the individual to the norm in other words what christian ought to be not what men want to be. I dont have to try and understand it, I already know it. G. M. Matheny. Get our Question of the Week delivered right to your inbox! Im mocking IFB beliefs many of which arent scriptural. I have read other versions of the Bible. You tend to lump independent Baptist or independent religious organizations into one lump, sensing that they are all the same. 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word. I will have to argue that while on vacation we just go to church somewhere else rather than dashing home. That may mean dressing appropriately and not dis honoring your body because its a holy temple. Wow! Lots of people at the church stoped what they were doing to attend. you DVR the Superbowl (or watch sport center on your phone in the vestibule) because you cant miss church. Hypocrites! Im happy to defend my position, but I dont tolerate assumptions, attacks, accusations, judgments, bullying or anything of the like. I actually looked up the word just now (Random House Websters College Dictionary), and here are the definitions: 3.) We can joke around about a differing denomination that we dont agree with, but how we react to a situation that wasnt intended, also matters greatly. ALL sins are forgivable, even homosexuality although it is a detestable sin in Gods eyes. My church members are filled with sin and give account to God alone. I agree some are or at least seem to be what most consider legalistic. For you shut the door of the Kingdom of Heaven in peoples faces. Jesus saved by dying on the cross in my husbands place. 41. We believe the King James Bible to be inerrant. The membership I dont believe they bought our loyalty, because we werent of any good investment. I dont have a boarden to preform any religious works. If you question if youre truly saved or not when youre having trouble accepting that giviing 10% of your gross income is a direct commandment for all Christians and if you dont give it, youre under a curse. But I did want to let you know that although some ifb churches may not be the best it doesnt make us a cult. BUT, there is good news! Independent Fundamental He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. The truth is, if you had sex with ANY woman before you finally decided to marry one of them, you are a divorced man. Baptist beliefs WebWOL's Directory of Independent Baptist Churches; Independent Baptist Churches. I dont believe they bought our loyalty, because we werent of any good investment. I didnt really say you can get drunk on grape juice but if I did, I might be a little confused. You can read some of them in the comments section and in the testimonial section here: https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/. Rather than attack one another, perhaps understand where both are coming from? Our path is narrow, must we fight amongst each other while we walk it? I dare say probably not. You had to wear a tie if you wanted to preach or preside over the Lords Supper. We will never attain that on this side. Some of these doctrines are as listed. 25 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Yes, I remember that. We are happily married today blessed with 2 more children. If you think that three church services per week is the minimum and that you must attend all three every week, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 9. I will never forget that day that I sat in my pastors car and he prayed with me, he didnt know what was happening in my life, but he knew I needed someone to pray with and I could see it in his eyes. No one knew about the marriage except us. 36. We can joke around about a differing denomination that we dont agree with, but how we react to a situation that wasnt intended, also matters greatly. God works in mysterious ways. Yes, I have countless emails and comments from people who were ready to give up on their faith until they read this site and realized that the IFB was in error not them. They are counting on your service and tithe. 2Co 5:15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. That apparently is what Christ would do. Yes, see my answer to your first question. Do you find them so humorous ? If you read any other bible besides the Kjv bible you not sining. I could come to him with anything that was bothering or troubling me and he NEVER judged me or held me in contempt by making me feel like I was less than or not good enough. I have to admit its a lot less work than actually thinking through things. operating or proceeding inconspicuously but with grave effect. If you should cut your vacation short you should never miss church this has happened only once in my life when I went I was on my senior class trip. 27 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. This Bible is preserved for the English speaking world without error in the King James Version. Others are very much unfair criticism. Theres a lot that is biblical in your post that we should want to do and some not biblical and therefore should abstain from practice. If you first came to church because Brother Dave or Brother Mike knocked on your door and invited you, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. (Genesis 2:24; Romans 7:2; 1 Corinthians 7:10; Ephesians 5:22-23), We believe that God expressly forbids intimate sexual activity be engaged in outside of a marriage between one man and one woman. Mind you all this was before I repented and ask God for forgiveness. 55. God values his word, even above his own name, and when you or I meet God, what we think means nothing to God, unless it lines up with His Word. [7], The New IFB currently lists 30 affiliated congregations on their website. I wanted to marry my boyfriend, but I want to fix him first. There isn't much out there on the web. Deacons help the pastor care for the flock so he can give priority to prayer and the ministry of the Word. 46. Luke 8:17, Daniel 2:22, Luke 12:2. We believe his power is supernatural, yet limited; and that he cannot act without the permission of God (Job 1:6-12; I John 4:4). Even if you cant tithe now you can still serve in some way and later when you are able to improve your financial situation they will get your tithe. If your pastor refuses to be called Reverend, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. 26. Independent Fundamental Baptists are one of the most legalistic Christian groups/. I was in an IFB church for eight years and left because the weight of never feeling that I would be good enough for this church had worn me down. Many of these, yes are extreme, be we also need to not be compromising in some areas. hypocrite. Rather than attack one another, perhaps understand where both are coming from? The key is that youre not suppose to JUST sit under the teaching/preaching of anyone without reading the Bible, seeking wisdom from God, and fellow shipping with people who are interested in drawing closer to God. If you think that you can be a better Christian or have more favor with God with good performance, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 54. are the result of sin and poor choices, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 46. You can clap in church, we did that Mountain, the church I grew up though we didnt do it very often though. For you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then you turn that person into twice the child of hell you yourselves are! Me and my boyfriend were going to break up unless there was hope for change. Correction is my discernment. I can be more specific and categorize your list of 55 things to give some examples as you asked OGrodnik to do, but it wouldnt be to diminish what you and others have experienced. Since God looks at Jesus to forgive Ill look at Jesus also to forgive. I rarely post on random pages I stumbled upon but by his reaction, he didnt think Dave intended to be offensive to prove a point. [13] Robertson had previously attracted media attention after he stated that gay people should be shot and New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern should "go home and get in the kitchen". 6 And they love to sit at the head table at banquets and in the seats of honor in the synagogues. Even when the family goes on vacation, we go to church. We believe that speaking in tongues was never the common or necessary sign of the baptism or filling of the Holy Spirit and that ultimate deliverance of the body from sickness or death awaits the consummation of our salvation in the resurrection, though God frequently chooses to answer the prayer of believers for physical healing. I had a pastor who was reaching out to me in the darkest part of my life, he used a broken phone as a way to get to me, he knew I could try and fix it, so he brought it to me and, rather than berating me, after I had fixed the phone he simply asked me Would it be okay if we just prayed together? and I knew, in that moment, that he actually did care about me, he didnt ask me to come to church, didnt ask for money, didnt ask for anything except for the opportunity to pray with me. 19. Is to help you find a bible believing church, an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, that seeks to serve and honor the Lord Jesus Christ. I go to an IFB church and thought a few of your statements could be funny if in the right spirit, some not so much and others I found untrue altogether. If you want a discussion ask for one. ), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 41. I must say, I was hoping the list would be more interesting but the fact mixed into the exaggeration of each point was mostly so true it seemed a bit pointless! (2 Cor. No, because thats not Gods will. If your not getting a lot out of your bible read I would recommend a switch to Kjv and to define any word you dont know Slow down reading and meditate on what your reading dont read as a duty each day but as a searching for fellowship each day. Faith Bible Baptist Church's Bible Study Internet Links If you feel guilty for not having devotions 7 days a week, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 42. The word fundamental simply means that we adhere to the fundamentals (basics) of the true Christian faith. Southern Baptist Beliefs If you think that singing anything other than hymns in church is too liberal, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 15. I know you scoff at my pity but there it is. I dont believe the IFB church I go to has ulterior motives, but I havent been to any other church to apply that to all IFB churches. If you think that reading a version of the Bible other than the KJV is a sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 18. I dont believe some of the Catholic doctrine is true, but all have belief in things they believe and unbelief in things they dont believe. Yes, we have a tract rack. THESE SERMON OUTLINES By Michael D. ONeal, Founder and Pastor Since 1986 Of. No, but I wanted to send the rest of my life with him. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. Its insidious and extremely toxic. You got me I am an IFB college grad. The tradition of men, human opinion, false science, religious creeds, nor popular opinion override the plain teaching of God's Word. around the world wherever our Lord directs. WebIndependent Fundamental Baptist churches have fellowship one with the other and often cooperate in such endeavors as evangelism. A strong percentage of our funding comes through several hundred local churches who support Hope you have a great day! Im pretty sure it WAS/IS alcohol because the bible talks alot about not getting drunk with wine.also take a little wine, etc. Im glad they didnt because Id probably be ashamed admitting Im a liar. His son a child murderer. We believe that a Fundamentalist is defined by their adherence to orthodox theology, orthodox methodology, and will only fellowship with those who do the same. Sons of vipers! 16 Blind guides! Not all churches are the same and if they are teaching Bible, they do teach about sin, and it should not be to make you feel any constraint towards the pastor to get away from that sin, but to learn to have some personal conviction that their sins need to be addressed, but THEY have to make that decision. Independent Fundamental Churches of America The pew hymnal is inspired by God While I favor hymns but I wouldnt necessarily say that because even though I do use the hymnal, most people at the church I go to now sing from the Power Point. Attending all three, in my opinion, is optional. Sermon Outlines The Bible-Believing Fundamentalist 52. Forget the past and move on to do those things that shine light to the lost, edify the saints, and glorify God. So I did. They try there best to live for Christ and to give God the glory for everything. the appearance of things is more important than reality, aka, you will cover up abuse and silence victims in order to protect the name of Christ. Auckland, New Zealand, New IFB pastor Logan Robertson was deported from Australia in July 2018 after being accused of harassing Muslims at two Brisbane mosques. If you have others please feel free to share in the comments section, 1. There are some things that the IFB does very well, such as fellowship. If you think that having a disagreement with a fellow Christian means that you are sowing discord with the brethren, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 53. Hmm, I cant think of a better word to describe the workings of the IFB! We believe that Satan is a created angelic being who rebelled and who tempted man to join him in rebellion against God (Isaiah 14:12-17; Ezekiel 28:11-19; Genesis 3:1-5). I believe this passage is a description of the IFB church Im a member of. I came to get a few laughs but it sounds like you were really hurt by some church growing up. You feel forced to go door to door preaching No general opinion on this since door to door preaching within the IFB is very similar to that of the Jehovahs Witnesses though we should share the gospel to others, especially to those who dont have Christ in their lives.

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