Further, they totally ignore the Lords declaration that all the signs of Matthew 24:5-33 were to be fulfilled in the A.D. 70 event. Jesus statement helps to correct the wrong idea conveyed in the way some Bible versions mistranslate the word presence. Some translations render it coming, advent, or return, all of which imply a momentary event in time. ; p. 99), 1917 "And the mountains were not found. 2:9-11; 1 Cor. Or will ordinary Witnesses see through the date setting because of the flood of information on the Internet? Eventually the governing body will stomach the idea of promoting 2034 as the possible date for the end (120 years from 1914 - 'just as the days of Noah will the days of the son of man be.'). But there is one important difference between the two conflicts. When the planet earth is destroyed, it will be a consequence of militant muslims or tectonic or planetary/solar mechanics and not because of any intervention from the "spirit realm.". Interrupt them. 70 Replies By Pudgy, August 12, 2021. armageddon. Actions against the religious group and its individual members spanned the Nazi years 1933 to 1945. 3:25,26. The evidence is clear that Jehovah has used and is continuing to use his one organization, with "the faithful and discreet slave" taking the lead. Copyright 2001-2015 Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum | JW.Org Community Information. (a)According to 1Thessalonians 5:1-6, what unusual proclamation will world leaders make? (a)How do we show that we know God? marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. 4. I'll bring the organization into the promised land, oh yeah! According to Revelation 17:1, 6 and 18:24, why will Jehovah destroy Babylon the Great? Yet nothing happened. (Jas. This is similar to the view that the disciples had as to the imminence of God's kingdom in their day. Coming up on 2034 there will be a fall back plan developed. Published March 6, 2022 8:55 a.m. PST. 16:14) However, in this article, we will also use the term Armageddon to refer to the war that immediately follows the gathering of the kings of the earth. The fact of the matter is, however, the Watchtower folks concede that Christs application was to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in A.D. 70. With a prediction like that, would you mind us adding you to this list of hallowed prophesiers? To teach his disciples the importance of keeping on the watch, Jesus told them: "Note the fig tree and all the other trees: When they are already in the bud, by observing it you know for yourselves that now the summer is near.". Russell's chief claim was that Jesus Christ , the perfect man, had returned invisibly to earth in 1874 and would establish God's visible kingdom after the Battle of Armageddon in 1914. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century." Those events occurred over many decades. if this generation is meant an era then it is to be 200yrs so1914+200=2114. A few weeks later, the Jehovah's Witnesses closed on a $200 million sale of that building to the private equity firm Kayne Anderson Real Estate Advisors, which plans to turn the property into . Good, I'll be too old to give a damn anyway. A few victims who can't conform here and there, but "the organization" on the whole is moving fast forward. Five years later, Poul and his wife stopped associating with the Witnesses, which in 1964 resulted in his being interrogated by their Elders and then ostracised from the . Either that or there is a contradiction between Matthew and Luke on this matter. You would think that somebody who had the absolute truth would have a track record of at least having absolute truth for some amount of time, before they had to change it. Why do they have to go from one extreme to another? . Some Dubs believed the year 2000 would not arrive before Armageddon. To the contrary, Jehovah's faithful witnesses have been progressively brought to an understanding of Jehovah's purposes, which are clearer now than ever before in history . *** w84 12/1 p. 18 Keep Ready! slimboyfat. Let us consider each of these in turn. This is not the first time the Jehovah's Witnesses church has been accused of sexual abuse. 5 Barak and Deborah ended their song with the words: So let all your enemies perish, OJehovah, but let those who love you be like the sun rising in its glory. (Judg. 22 when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. Page 15, Paragraph 6 "In Noah's day, Jehovah declared: 'My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. []. Can I get a witness, a vote, a bundle of cash like a thieving theologian? 19:11, 14,15) But what about Jehovahs chief enemy, Satan, whose lying propaganda led the nations to Armageddon? There are no signs of the second coming of Christ in spite of the claims of the Watchtower cult and their religious kinsmen, the Dispensationalists. The leaders of the Watchtower Organization have long taught their members that THEY, and THEY, alone, are "appointed by Jesus" to dispense His truth, or, as it is put to the rank-and-file, "spiritual food," and that if a Jehovah's Witness does not follow the teachings of the Watchtower, and remain "faithful" to the Watchtower Organization, they are "going against God and His . This explains how Witnesses, even in western countries, were able to demonstrate significant increases in the 1980s and early 1990s. (May 15, 1947, page 157) "The Watchtower does not claim to be inspired in its utterances, nor is it dogmatic." Third, as we will see later in this article, the war of Armageddon will begin when the worlds kings attack Gods people, who are scattered throughout the earth. More important, imagine how profoundly happy you will be when Gods name and sovereignty have been fully vindicated! One elder suggested it might be Iraq, or even the UN. 4 Why did Jehovah connect the final great war with Megiddo? Tribulation has fallen upon those who stand by the Lord. Those events occurred over many decades. The Jehovahs Witness view of the battle of Armageddon is but one example of the ineptness of this group to analyze biblical prophecy. (Rev. You should live with fellow Jehovah's Witnesses only. The first was the initial portion of Matthew 24, while the latter was an excerpt from Pauls second epistle to Timothy. No more than four-in-ten members of the group belong to any one racial and ethnic background: 36% are white, 32% are Hispanic, 27% are black and 6% are another race or mixed race. for God has on earth today a prophetlike organization , Jehovah's anointed witnesses on earth. (Luke 21:32) And Jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment 1989 "The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. Have you meditated on how you will respond? We can imagine how the world will respond. (b)Why will this be a dangerous lie? (see earlier thread) That is not so easy to call. 38:19-22) He may turn his enemies against one another. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBYGp5gD-oo&feature=related. We are certainly in 'the time of the end.'. But Scott Terry, a former Jehovah's Witness for 14 years and author of Cowboys, Armageddon, and The Truth: How a Gay Child Was Saved from Religion, believes that a widespread apathy towards door . But the powers-that-be in Brooklyn learned nothing from this mishap.Even today, this cult thrives on attempting to capitalize upon international events, suggesting that such are indicators of the impending Armageddon.. As I stated earlier about the account in Luke 17:26-28 referring to the occurrence (event) of the end versus the period of time it would seem that clear thinking would prevent us from trying to attach a length of time of any sort to the presence of Jesus Christ based upon the account in Matthew citied in the article. The expression this generation (he-genea-aute) is found five times in Matthews Gospel record, and never is it employed in any sense other than that of the generation contemporary with Jesus Christ (cf. Lots of threats - pandemic, China, Russia, terrorism and no real integrity in leadership are unnerving, however the JW's have a clear and tangible history of falsely prophesying Armageddon, actually 6 or 7 separate and distinct episodes in their brief ~140 year history - yes "God's Organization" is less than 200 yrs old as while Jesus walked . Even then, the governing body will have a challenge in convincing ordinary Witnesses to hang around until then. *** w84 12/1 p. 18 Keep Ready! #1 would make the most sense from a business prospective but I don't see them resisting #2. Many others have . (2Chron. (Rev. ***. Why, for instance, were there actually more pioneers (% wise) in the late 1980s than leading up to 1975? God gave the people in Noah's day 120 years, and perhaps he was giving us 120 years also. It doesn't have to be either/or. 2034 may be the next 1975, because it will be 120 years since 1914, in the book of Genesis, Jehovah shortens man's life to 120 years. 17 The good news about our Lord Jesus includes all the truths that Jesus taught, as found in Gods Word. Jehovah is using only one organization today to accomplish his will. kls. (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1989, p. 12 [bound volume changed "20th century" to "day"]), Jehovah's prophetic word through Christ Jesus is: 'This generation (of 1914) will by no means pass away until all things occur.' He has prospered their work of preaching "this good news of the kingdom" in 194 different lands to date. Pin On Jehovah S Witnesses On The Move . For example, by the waters of Megiddo, God helped Israelite Judge Barak defeat a Canaanite army led by a chief named Sisera. ***. | 1. And she has spilled much blood, including the blood of Gods servants. The Witnesses, however, assign a most strange interpretation to the phrase. This works for the current GB as some of them will be . The Greek word used in Luke for occurred (ginomai) speaks to a happening, and more specifically the context reveals a happening within the days of Noah, the event rather than the days being the primary discussion as is seen in Thayer's Lexicon Definitions: A prolongation and middle voice form of a primary verb; to cause to be ("gen"-erate), i.e. So I'd like to answer some of the a accusations that questions about Jehovah's witnesses always seems to bring. marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. - Genesis 6:17", Page 15, Paragraph 7 "Noah received the warning of the upcoming catastrophe decades in advance and he wisely used the time to prepare for survival.' Maybe instead of WT setting their own date, they will fall back on the possibility of Newton's calculations. It is Gods spirit that bears witness with that persons spirit that anoints them with the heavenly hope. In fact, they are known throughout the world as Jehovah's Witnesses. This may seem counter-intuitive to getting rid of someone, but the fact is that if you don't answer the door, they are likely to mark you as "not home" and return in the near future. It's the absolute best way to scam people I have yet seen. See also our book: {glossSub (Courier Publications,Revelation Jesus Christs Final Message of Hope; Select Studies from the Apocalypse)}. Welcome This website was founded by dedicated, baptized Jehovah's Witnesses. For example, he may use earthquakes, hail, and lightning. Initially, Russell felt that the battle of Armageddon started in 1874, based on his understanding that this was a social upheaval. In what order will God destroy Satans world? Sadly, this trend is affecting Jehovah's Witnesses around the world. 1:6-9. w08 01/01 pg. 19-20. Of special interest are the expressions this generation, and all.. 7. Your donation gift(s) are very much appreciated and may qualify as a charitable deduction for federal income tax purposes. A subsequent feature article by the same name followed (pp. ", *** Watchtower 1964 June 15 pp.365-6 Jehovah, the God of Progressive Revelation ***, 22 As Jehovah revealed his truths by means of the first-century Christian congregation so he does today by means of the present-day Christian congregation. by xbro 6:33; 24:14) It also includes supporting Christs anointed brothers as they care for their weighty responsibilities.Matt. Where the Adventists have been, the Witnesses will follow. The Watchtower december 15,2003 titled: Who compose Jesus family? How foolish to take the view that expectations needing some adjustment should call into question the whole body of truth! We also show that we know him when we love and obey him and give him our exclusive devotion. A quarter of a century ago I filed a copy of the Watchtower magazine (published and distributed by the Jehovahs Witnesses). I am the new Prophet.I am annointed..DAMMIT. If an organization is to be fully theocratic, it must be directed and controlled altogether by God and by the forces he operates. Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring 'the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh, Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. It is vital, therefore, that each one recognize that Jesus Christ is the Head of the Christian congregation, as well as showing proper regard for those on earth who have been theocratically appointed to positions of oversight.-Phil. What does it mean to obey the good news about our Lord Jesus? We obey the good news when we apply it in our lives. Murderers! To me, the generation teaching was the primary argument that I (stupidly) believed meant that the world was ending soon. If it were true, I wouldn't need to worry about Armageddon anyways, as I will surely be dead by then. Did not Moses make a 40-year miscalculation in trying to act ahead of time to remove Israel's affliction? THE WATCHTOWERSTUDY EDITION September2019, Share There may be some infighting about this as there was in Franz' day, but some new 'prophet' will need to come forward from among them! I asked this question (and I received no answer). ( Gense 6:3) Ce decret divin mis en 2490 avant notre re marqu le commencement de la fin pour le monde impie. He will vent that rage by using demonic propagandaunclean inspired expressionsto cause a coalition of nations to turn on Jehovahs servants. Sure, they've had growth but its not translated into enough cash to keep the status quo. *** Watchtower 1983 February 15 p.12 You Can Live Forever in. Her grandfather laughed when Armageddon didn't happen in 1914, CT Russell was sweating bullets because he didn't know what to say to anyone, he was panicking and pacing back and forth all night, they were . ^ par. And should we forget; liars. 85 PICTURE DESCRIPTION: Policemen get ready to force their way into the home of a Christian family who trust that Jesus and his angels are aware of what is happening. By that time I hope my kid is a millionaire helping to support me in my retirement. I recall giving a PT about the last days (early 90s) and even using the argument that we were almost at the 80 year anniversary of 1914 and that generation didn't have many left. Out of zeal and enthusiasm for the vindication of Jehovah's name, Word and purposes, and the desire for the new system, some of his servants have at times been premature in their expectations. Satan, of course, will be enraged. Like clouds covering the land, he will attack Jehovahs people. This works for the current GB as some of them will be alive in 2034 but all will be dead by 2154! I'm the guy for the job! How can we remain faithful as Armageddon draws near? God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. 19 During these difficult last days, many of Jehovahs people are experiencing trials. This does not signify that the faithful remnant or society of Jehovah?s anointed witnesses are an earthly tribunal of interpretation, delegated to interpret the Scriptures and its prophecies. 'He that does the will of God remains forever,' states the Bible. Even the republics will disappear in the fall of 1920. ;-). *** Watchtower 1983 February 15 p.12 You Can Live Forever in on Earth-But How? He merely uses the ?servant? The Watchtower recognizes the truth as belonging to Jehovah, and not to any creature. . WT just did a publicity thing trumping up Isaac Newton in one of the mags this past autumn. *** Watchtower 1981 December 1 p.27 The Path of the Righteous Does Keep Getting Brighter ***. The Bible says the UN will . You will see a gradual emphasis of this until the mid-to-late 2020s when they will go completely nuts with it like they did in 1914, 1915, 1925, 1975. Failed Watchtower date predictions and changed date doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses, including lesser known ones such as 1799, 1844, 1874, 1878, 1918, 1920 and the 1940's. . What is the scarlet-colored wild beast, and how is it involved in the outworking of Gods will concerning Babylon the Great? As she grew up as a third-generation Jehovah's Witness, there were certain things . How many religions have voluntarily "ceased operations/closed for business"? (The Finished Mystery, 1917, p. 404), 1920 'we may expect 1925 to witness the return of these faithful men of from the condition of death, being resurrected' (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, 1920, p. 88), 1920 'Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old' (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, 1920, p. 89-90), 1922 "The indisputable facts, therefore, show that the "time of the end" began in 1799; that the Lord's second presence began in 1874." "My own counsel will stand, and everything that is my delight I shall do," says Jehovah. (Rev. 32 Replies (Isa. Megiddo and the nearby Jezreel Valley were the sites of many battles. Yes, the survivors will be absolutely right when they proclaim, "Jehovah God, the Almighty, true and righteous are your judicial decisions."Rev. Pole. 1-5). Since his enthronement in 1914 and the 3.5 years it took for the examination to determine who could be called the FDS. (The Finished Mystery, 1917 edition, p. 258), 1917 "It is the Day of Vengeance, which began in the world war of 1914 and which will break like a furious morning storm in 1918." Words such as "Similar, Similarly, Similarity, Similarities, Parallel, Corresponds, Characteristic, Compare, Arklike and more are all through the article to back up their subtle and hinted claims. 8 That will be the foretold proclamation of "peace and security." Why will world leaders say that? 1. Don't cry Slimboy, its early here on the east coast on my side of the pond and most of the rest of the yanks are still in bed, I'll give it a read after my next cup of joe. Sure, 2035 will roll around and the world will still be kicking along and there will be fall out from another false prophesy but if you could increase the numbers from 7 million to 14 million, who cares if you lose even 25%. How come they can't just say "we've done more research, we think we were mistaken. 6/1/99 and 8/15/99 Watchtowers each had articles that drew the parallel between the JWs work and Noah's. 1879 was the start of The Watchtower and 1999 was 120 years later. How about just being aware, alert, ready? Remember they are inspired but not directed by the active force. That's the beauty of religion and superstition, it has no limits. The OT junk about God bringing mass slaughter was just to make the Israelites feel good about themselves and their volcano god. And they will not recover until they make a new prediction That is all history you know already, so sorry for going over it again. Their strength will be in keeping calm and showing trust in Jehovah and his heavenly armies.Isa. Jehovah's Witnesses teaches that Armageddon will start in the year 2034.

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